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"In foreign policy, the administration has failed. Congress has failed. Both the Democratic and Republican Parties have passed the national checkbook to their patrons in the war contracting business. And passed the bill to future generations.
The American people, who in 2008 searched for something redemptive after years of George W. Bush's war, realize in 2014 that hope and change was but a clever slogan. It was used to gain power and to keep it through promoting fear, war, the growth of the National Security state, and an autumnal bonfire of countless billions of tax dollars which fall like leaves from money trees on the banks of the Potomac."
-- Dennis Kucinich, The Real Reason We Are Bombing Syria
News and Opinion
US ties itself in legal knots to cover shifting rationale for Syria strikes
Lawyers use Iraq’s right of self-defence and weakness of Syrian regime – which US has undermined – to justify failure to seek UN approval
US government lawyers have invoked Iraq’s right to self-defence and the weakness of the Assad regime as twin justifications for US bombing in Syria, in a feat of legal acrobatics that may reopen questions over its right to intervene in the bitter civil war.
In a letter to the United Nations secretary general, Ban Ki-moon, released near 24 hours after attacks began, US ambassador Samantha Power argued that the threat to Iraq from Islamic State, known as Isis or Isil, gave the US and its allies in the region an automatic right to attack on its behalf.
“Iraq has made clear that it is facing a serious threat of continuing attacks from Isil coming out of safe havens in Syria,” Power wrote.
“The government of Iraq has asked that the United States lead international efforts to strike Isil sites and military strongholds in Syria in order to end the continuing attacks on Iraq, to protect Iraqi citizens and ultimately to enable and arm Iraqi forces to perform their task of regaining control of the Iraqi borders.” ...
The US also argued that there was legal right to pursue Isis inside Syria due to the weakness of that country’s government – a regime the US has been actively urging be undermined by rebel groups for much of the past two years.
Washington Gripped by Madness: When War Is Not War, Combat Is Not Combat, and Boots Are Never on the Ground
One clear sign of the farcical nature of our moment is the inability to use almost any common word or phrase in an uncontested way if you put "Iraq" or "Islamic State" or "Syria" in the same sentence. Remember when the worst Washington could come up with in contested words was the meaning of “is” in Bill Clinton’s infamous statement about his relationship with a White House intern? Linguistically speaking, those were the glory days, the utopian days of official Washington.
Just consider three commonplace terms of the moment: “war,” “boots on the ground,” and “combat.” A single question links them all: Are we or aren’t we? And to that, in each case, Washington has no acceptable answer. On war, the secretary of state said no, we weren’t; the White House and Pentagon press offices announced that yes, we were; and the president fudged. He called it “targeted action” and spoke of America’s “unique capability to mobilize against an organization like ISIL,” but God save us, what it wasn't and wouldn't be was a “ground war.”
Only with Congress did a certain clarity prevail. Nothing it did really mattered. Whatever Congress decided or refused to decide when it came to going to war would be fine and dandy, because the White House was going to do “it” anyway. “It,” of course, was the Clintonesque “is” of present-day Middle Eastern policy. Who knew what it was, but here was what it wasn’t and would never be: “boots on the ground.” Admittedly, the president has already dispatched 1,600 booted troops to Iraq’s ground (with more to come), but they evidently didn’t qualify as boots on the ground because, whatever they were doing, they would not be going into “combat” (which is evidently the only place where military boots officially hit the ground). The president has been utterly clear on this. There would be no American “combat mission” in Iraq. Unfortunately, “combat” turns out to be another of those dicey terms, since those non-boots had barely landed in Iraq when Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Martin Dempsey started to raise the possibility that some of them, armed, might one day be forward deployed with Iraqi troops as advisers and spotters for U.S. air power in future battles for Iraq’s northern cities. This, the White House now seems intent on defining as not being a “combat mission.”
As Peter Hart
notes over at FAIR, The "reluctant warrior" has struck again. One wonders, "What would an enthusiastic warrior look like to the corporate media? Would bombing eight countries in six years be enough?"
Syria Becomes the 7th Predominantly Muslim Country Bombed by 2009 Nobel Peace Laureate
The U.S. today began bombing targets inside Syria, in concert with its lovely and inspiring group of five allied regimes: Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, and Jordan.
That means that Syria becomes the 7th predominantly Muslim country bombed by 2009 Nobel Peace Laureate Barack Obama—after Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya and Iraq.
The utter lack of interest in what possible legal authority Obama has to bomb Syria is telling indeed: Empires bomb who they want, when they want, for whatever reason (indeed, recall that Obama bombed Libya even after Congress explicitly voted against authorization to use force, and very few people seemed to mind that abject act of lawlessness; constitutional constraints are not for warriors and emperors).
It was just over a year ago that Obama officials were insisting that bombing and attacking Assad was a moral and strategic imperative. Instead, Obama is now bombing Assad’s enemies while politely informing his regime of its targets in advance. It seems irrelevant on whom the U.S. wages war; what matters it that it be at war, always and forever.
Without a Truce in Syrian Civil War, U.S.-Led Strikes Threaten More Chaos for World’s Worst Crisis
Military expert says, we're going to bomb them, they will change their tactics so that the only way to effectively fight them is to engage them on the ground. But we won't engage them on the ground. We'll just keep on bombing. Expensively. Increasingly ineffectively. We're just going to keep on burning up your money for diminishing returns because that's what America does. And don't call it a war.
Pentagon Expects Islamic State to Rebound after Syria Airstrikes
U.S. military officials expected the Islamic State to rebound from wide-ranging airstrikes in Syria Monday by dispersing its forces and continuing to press attacks in Iraq, the Pentagon's operations chief said Tuesday.
"They will adapt to what we've done and seek to address shortfalls and gaps in our air campaign," said Army Lt. Gen. William C. Mayville, Jr., during a Pentagon briefing on Tuesday.
"We have seen evidence that they have already done that," Mayville said, but the U.S. will not seek to counter by using ground forces. "We have not put, and we will not put, ground forces into Syria."
Syrian rebels angry that strikes hit al Qaida ally but not Assad
Anti-government media activists and rebel commanders gave a mixed assessment of U.S.-led airstrikes in northern Syria on Tuesday, saying that some of the Islamic State encampments hit had been evacuated and one building that was struck had been filled with displaced civilians, even as at least one major Islamic State base was seriously damaged and many fighters were killed.
But the greatest damage, they said, may be to the Free Syrian Army, the moderate rebel faction that enjoyed U.S. support for years.
By focusing exclusively on Islamic State insurgents and al Qaida figures associated with the Khorasan unit of the Nusra Front, and bypassing installations associated with the government of President Bashar Assad, the airstrikes infuriated anti-regime Syrians and hurt the standing of moderate rebel groups that are receiving arms and cash as part of a covert CIA operation based in the Turkish border city of Reyhanli.
Rebel fighters argue that they constitute the only friendly ground force available to the international coalition to fill the security vacuum in places that Islamic State fighters are forced to abandon. But rebel commanders said they’d played no role in selecting the targets or planning for the aftermath.
The U.S. informed the Syrian government of the impending airstrikes Monday, the official Syrian news agency reported, but no one dropped a hint to the inner circle of rebel commanders. They learned about it from the news.
This is an excellent, short article explaining the external forces at work in Syria as America begins bombing. It's far more complex than the American media let on; it is worth clicking the link and reading through this full article to become more informed.
Syrian wars of proxy
The Syrian war is not only a proxy war. There is a strong internal dimension to the war in Syria but it has been obscured by various layers and dimensions of outside intervention and agendas. The Syrian regime wants to stay in power at any cost while there was certainly a civil popular opposition in Syria when the uprising first began. There are thousands of reasons for the Syrian people to protest against a family dictatorship that has controlled much of their lives since 1970 but the civil protest movement did not erupt by itself, the Western media narrative notwithstanding. Concurrent with the protest movement that erupted in 2011, Turkey and Gulf regimes had already set up armed rebel groups to help bring down a regime. The internal dimension of the war in Syria, however, is now probably marginal to the global and regional war raging in the country today. ...
[T]here is no war within Islam in Syria as Thomas Friedman and his ilk keep asserting. There has been a moderate and progressive strand of Islam in Syria and many of its elements have aligned themselves with the regime. And contrary to early claims made by the hired external opposition and its advocates in the West, there was never a moderate and progressive version of Islam among the rebel groups. How could that be the case when the sponsors of Syrian rebel Islam are Turkey, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia? ... The internal Wahhabi war is pitting the various Wahhabi parties in the region against each other. The Saudi regime, Qatari regime, al-Qa`idah (Nusrah Front) and ISIS: all four are Wahhabi and each is trying to dominate the field of the Wahhabi movement.
What Role Is Turkey Playing in the War against ISIS?
UK Parliament Expected to Debate Iraq Airstrikes As Cameron Warns 'You Can't Opt Out' of Fight
The British parliament is expected to be recalled to debate involvement in airstrikes against the Islamic State, it has been reported, as Prime Minister David Cameron insisted that the fight against the extremist group bidding to create a caliphate in the Middle East was not one anyone could "opt out of."
The BBC reported that the parliament was likely to be convened on Friday to discuss Britain's role in military efforts in Iraq and Syria, though no official confirmation has yet been made. Britain has so far been hesitant to commit resources to the international coalition carrying out airstrikes against the group, with Cameron reportedly frustrated at the lack of support for such a move from lawmakers.
On Tuesday, ahead of Barack Obama's appearance at the United Nations General Assembly to rally support for the fight against the Islamic State, Cameron told NBC News that an international coalition was needed "right across the board" to destroy the "evil organization."
Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Step Up, Peru
Khorasan Is the Terror Outfit Giving al Qaeda a New Name in Syria
Discussion of Khorasan, which is tied to al Qaeda's central command and its Syrian affiliate Jabhat al-Nusra, recently surfaced in the media after American intelligence officials said that it might pose a more direct threat to the United States than the Islamic State (also known as ISIS). Those remarks now appear to have strategically presented the rationale for strikes aimed at destroying the Khorasan cell's capacity to carry out terror attacks in the US and Europe. ...
"We believe the Khorasan group was nearing the execution phase of an attack either in Europe or the homeland," Lt. Gen. William Mayville, director of operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters late Monday evening. "We know that the Khorasan group has attempted to recruit Westerners to serve as operatives or to infiltrate back into their homelands." ...
John Horgan, director of the Center for Terrorism and Security Studies at the University of Massachusetts Lowell, told VICE News the recent media catch-up on Khorasan shows how varying and haphazard public perceptions of al Qaeda remain, notwithstanding the fact that the threat they pose has been perhaps the only foreign policy constant in the past decade.
"We seem to have lost any ability to critically assess the threat posed by the al Qaeda movement," Horgan said. "One minute, we ridicule them for fantastical aspirations in India and for apparently launching foolishly executed raids on hard targets, while the next minute we worry about a secret core within a core within an affiliate that now, we're told, is poised to strike." ...
"Our inability to critically and reliably assess these groups is, I think, a sign of just how simplistic and jingoistic our understanding of them really is," Horgan added. "It might also be a more simple reflection of our tendency to offer commentary based on next-to-no information."
U.S. says still assessing fate of Khorasan figure after Syria strike
The United States said on Wednesday it was still assessing whether Mohsin al-Fadhli, a senior figure of the al Qaeda-linked Khorasan group, was killed in a U.S. strike in Syria, with the Pentagon cautioning any confirmation could take time.
One U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Reuters earlier on Wednesday: "We believe he is dead."
But other officials privately and publicly urged caution, saying the United States could not independently confirm that the American air attack on Khorasan targets on Tuesday killed him or others.
How “Khorasan” Went From Nowhere To The Biggest Threat To The U.S.
An Al-Qaeda-connected group that the Obama administration has targeted with airstrikes alongside ISIS was almost totally unknown to the American public until the U.S. started bombing them, though sources say the group has been known to the administration and to Congress for some time. ... [H]ardly any public information was available about the group before this week and some are suggesting the Khorasan group is simply a renaming of already-known Al-Qaeda operatives in Syria. ...
Rep. Peter King, the former Homeland Security Committee chair, said that members of Congress have “known about it for several months.”
“I’m surprised it [the name] even came out,” King said. “It was supposed to be top secret, classified, and it wasn’t until last week that an AP story had it in there. But we weren’t supposed to talk about it.” ...
Some are doubting the credibility of the threat, arguing that the Obama administration has exaggerated it to justify bombing Syria.
“I think the USG is blowing them [Khorasan] way out of proportion,” said a congressional aide who focuses on Syria. “They need a good story right now and saying they subverted a terrorist plot against America is good press.”
Obama himself has never publicly mentioned Khorasan until Tuesday, when the U.S. had already bombed them.
“Myself and some others are wondering why this suddenly appeared last week, why this leaked out after being kept so secret,” said a Republican congressman familiar with Khorasan. “It could be that they wanted a good reason why we attacked them in Syria. We are saying they are a threat to the US so they obviously wanted that out there before we attacked that.”
Suddenly Khorasan: New US Enemy Came Out of Nowhere
That something al-Qaeda linked was known to exist in Aleppo was hardly news, but was it really what is being presented as Khorasan now?
It seems unlikely. The group’s putative leader Muhsin al-Fadhli was being claimed by the State Department to be the leader of “al-Qaeda in Iran” as recently as May, which doesn’t exactly point to him being active in some super dangerous group in Syria for a solid year.
Indeed, the whole al-Qaeda in Iran conceit from the US has been extremely dubious and primarily thrown out there when things in Afghanistan (or before that Iraq) weren’t going well and they needed a scapegoat. The Khorasan name seems better fitted to this putative faction, since Khorasan is a region of eastern Iran.
The Khorasan plots appear to be lifted straight out of 2009-2010, accusing the new group of scientifically dubious bomb plots involving explosive clothing that were lifted straight out of the allegations against al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) back then, when the US was looking for a pretext to launch a drone war there. The other allegations seem to be a rehash of 2013 claims about al-Qaeda inventing a magic liquid that can turn clothes into undetectable bombs, a scare story that was created, and died almost immediately over lack of evidence.
Oh looky what's happening in Obama's "successful" model for intervention in Syria:
Yemen president warns of civil war as factions collide
President Abd-Rabbu Mansour Hadi has warned Yemenis their country is heading towards civil war after the takeover of the capital by Shi'ite Muslim rebels, a move that has allowed the insurgents to dictate terms to a weakened, fractured government.
"(The combat in Sanaa) emphasizes to us the painful bitterness of fighting among our people and the danger of entering into a civil war," Hadi said in a speech to political and security chiefs at his headquarters on Tuesday.
Any such war would likely pit the Houthi rebels, who claim to represent the Zaydi Shi'ite sect - 30 percent of Yemen's 25 million people - against an alliance of Sunni Islamist and tribal interests united by a few top families and generals.
The Houthis struck a deal that will make them a part of the government, but it's not clear if that will satisfy their demands, or if it will instead embolden them to seek further powers.
Against the backdrop of a fragmented political, tribal and sectarian scene, any renewed fighting could also allow an array of other groups, including southern separatists, former leader Ali Abdullah Saleh and even al Qaeda to take advantage.
There is also a risk that Yemen, strategically located on major oil shipping routes and next to top Gulf crude exporters, could become a new front in a region-wide tussle for influence between Shi'ite Iran and Sunni Saudi Arabia.
Activists Shut Down Factory Behind Israeli Drones
Activists in Scotland were arrested Tuesday for blockading and shutting down Thales UK, renowned Govan, Glasgow-based weapons manufacturer, to protest the company's role in producing drones used by Israel against Palestinian people. ...
[B]efore they were all arrested, the direct action participants were able to halt the work of the factory from 6:00 AM to 6:00 PM, effectively preventing the working day from proceeding, said Blair Poutney, a supporter of the direct action ...
The protest is a response to Israel's recent military assault on the besieged Gaza strip, killing over 2,000 civilians, at least 75 percent of whom were civilians, according to UN estimates.
According to the protesters, culpability in Israel's assault on Gaza extends far beyond Thales UK. "This is a message to Glasgow City Council who fly the Palestinian flag on our City Chambers while simultaneously arming Israel with the weapons they need to bomb Gaza," protester Leena O'Hare said earlier Tuesday. "The UK government, by allowing Thales to operate with Elbit systems, have blood on their hands. Last year alone the UK government had 381 extant arms licenses to Israel, worth almost £8 billion."
As Ukraine's debt tangle unwinds, Russia holds key thread
A selloff on Ukraine's dollar debt is focusing attention on a controversial $3 billion bond held by Russia, raising investor concerns that President Vladimir Putin could use the issue to trigger a cascade of defaults across Kiev's sovereign Eurobonds.
The so-called bail-bond, taken out late last year by former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich, carries a clause which - given Kiev's steadily worsening finances - may enable the Kremlin to demand immediate repayment.
At best, that could force Western lenders to stump up more cash for Kiev. In the worst - albeit less likely - scenario, so-called cross-default provisions carried by most Eurobonds would force payment on all Ukraine's remaining dollar bonds at once if Moscow is not paid on time.
Putin, who has annexed Crimea and is widely accused of stoking a separatist revolt in eastern Ukraine, is seeking to maximize economic leverage to prevent pro-Western President Petro Poroshenko fulfilling a far reaching free trade agreement with the European Union.
Under Russian pressure, the EU and Ukraine agreed this month to postpone implementation of the accord until the end of 2015 after Kiev accepted a ceasefire with the pro-Russian rebels in a conflict that has killed more than 3,000 people.
Venezuelan Government Announces Disarmament Plan
Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro launched a nationwide disarmament program in Caracas over the weekend as the head of state tried to cap the alarming rates of violence endemic in his country, which has the second-highest homicide rate in the world behind Honduras.
The plan, announced on September 20 — International Day of Peace — will see the Venezuelan government establish a $47 million fund to help establish 60 centers where citizens can voluntarily surrender their firearms.
Despite passing a law last June to restrict gun sales only to members of the military and security forces, effectively outlawing civilian possession of guns — being caught with a firearm in Venezuela can land you with up to 20 years in prison — firearms are still a major cause of death in the country.
The United Nations estimates a murder rate of 53.7 per 100,000 people, compared to 90.4 in Honduras. The figure was up from 47.8 the previous year. The Venezuelan Violence Observatory, a Caracas-based non-profit organization estimates a much higher figure, however, of 79 per 100,000 people — a rate it says has quadrupled over the past 15 years.
Under the initiative, Maduro has also dedicated $39 million to install more security cameras and pay for 2,000 soldiers to patrol alongside police officers in the most dangerous neighborhoods. "We are building peace from within, and for that, you need disarmament," Maduro said during the announcement.
Chelsea Manning sues US military over denial of gender dysphoria treatment
Chelsea Manning, the US army soldier who released hundreds of thousands of secret documents to WikiLeaks, has filed a lawsuit in a federal court that charges her military jailers with violating her constitutional rights by denying medical treatment for gender dysphoria.
The legal complaint, lodged with a US district court in Washington DC, accuses the army of repeatedly ignoring her pleas for appropriate treatment for her condition. It names as defendants: the secretary of defence Chuck Hagel, major general David Quantock of the army corrections command, and colonel Erica Nelson who commands the disciplinary barracks in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, where Manning is held. ...
In July, the Associated Press reported that Hagel had given the green light to “rudimentary” treatment, but since then the only concession the military has made is to allow her to wear female underwear and sports bras. Meanwhile, she has not been allowed to express her female gender outwardly by growing her hair longer or through other forms of grooming customary for female prisoners. ...
Chase Strangio, a staff attorney with the ACLU which is representing Manning in the legal action, said in a statement that it had become clear that her treatment had been “governed not by doctors but by Washington officials and dictated not by medicine but by politics”. He added that “treating severe gender dysphoria with sports bras is like treating a gunshot wound with a Band-Aid”.
Detroit's Water Shut-offs at the Center of Bankruptcy Proceedings
People see a need for a 3rd party--but will they vote for its candidates?
A majority of Americans, annoyed with Republicans and Democrats, think a third political party is needed, according to a new Gallup poll.
But that doesn’t mean such an alternative would have much success.
“Americans' current desire for a third party is consistent with their generally negative views of both the Republican and Democratic parties, with only about four in 10 viewing each positively,” according to a Gallup analysis released Wednesday. Fifty-eight percent saw a need for a third party.
Succeeding with a third party has been difficult in modern times. Independent Ross Perot got 19 percent of the presidential popular vote in 1992, but no electoral votes. No other third party effort has come close since then. In 2012, presidential candidates not running on a Republican or Democratic ticket got a total of less than 2 percent of the popular vote.
The Evening Greens
Climate change summit: world leaders told to 'step up ambition'
The widow of Nelson Mandela punctured the self-congratulatory mood of the UN summit on Tuesday, saying world leaders had failed to rise to the challenge of climate change.
“There is a huge mismatch between the magnitude of the challenge and the response we heard here today,” Graça Machel told the closing moments of the summit. “The scale is much more than we have achieved.”
The gathering of 120 world leaders – the first such meeting on climate change in five years – resulted in a day of impassioned speeches, including a cameo from the actor and UN ambassador Leonardo DiCaprio.
Several of the speeches, including that of Barack Obama, mentioned the 300,000 people who turned out for Sunday’s climate march. “Our citizens keep marching. We cannot pretend we do not hear them,” the president said.
But, as anticipated, the leaders held back on making new commitments to cut greenhouse gas emissions or to give significant climate finance to developing countries, leaving it to business, cities and campaign groups to produce the real action on climate.
... Machel said leaders had failed to offer an adequate response to the hundreds of thousands of people who came out in the streets this week to demand action on climate change – and the millions in poor countries who will suffer its effects.
“Can we genuinely say we are going to preserve their lives, and ensure their children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren inherit a planet which is safe and sustainable?” she asked.
Machel appealed to world leaders and business executives who descended on the UN on Tuesday to “go back to the drawing board”. She concluded: “The obligation in my view is to step up the ambition.”
"We Can’t Rely on Our Leaders": Inaction at Climate Summit Fuels Call for Movements to Take the Helm
Sorry, Kids, You Might Never See These 10 American Species
Polar bears, monarch butterflies and the North Pacific right whale are among the list of 10 American species a conservation coalition warns that our children may never see.
The reason why, the Endangered Species Coalition says in its new report, is us. From climate change to the declining oceans to the chemical onslaught on ecosystems, human activity is creating a situation in which we're on track to leave a natural world to the next generation that may be absent some of the nation's most iconic wildlife. ...
Also on the list of disappearing species are the mountain yellow-legged frog, great white shark, little brown bat, whitebark pine, rusty patched bumblebee, greater sage-grouse and the Snake River sockeye salmon.
Blog Posts of Interest
Here are diaries and selected blog posts of interest on DailyKos and other blogs.
What's Happenin' Is On Hiatus
Is Obama misleading the world to war? Depends how you define 'misleading'
From activism to arrest: one polar bear's adventure with Flood Wall Street
Giant Corporations Want to Control All of Your Beer
A Little Night Music
Little Willie Littlefield - Every Day I Have The Blues
Little Willie Littlefield - Sweet Home Chicago
Little Willie Littlefield - Lump In My Throat
Little Willie Littlefield - Kansas City
Little Willie Littlefield - Drinkin' Hadacol
Little Willie Littlefield w/Wardell Gray - Goofy Dust Blues
Little Willie Littlefield - Baby Shame
Little Willie Littlefield - 1 Scotch 1 Bourbon 1 Beer
Little Willie Littlefield - Little Willie's Boogie
Little Willie Littlefield - Rhumba Blues
Little Willie Littlefield - Mellow Cats
Little Willie Littlefield - I Wanna Love You
Little Willie Littlefield - Blood Is Redder Than Wine
Little Willie Littlefield - It's Midnight
Little Willie Littlefield - Oh Happy Payday
Little Willie Littlefield - Farewell
Little Willie Littlefield - Hit The Road
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